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Kabeil Blackdawn
The Shadow Order
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.02.11 22:19:00 -
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Edited by: Kabeil Blackdawn on 11/02/2009 22:22:17
The bpo requirement are the one from the Sisi database:
http://www.ellatha.com/eve/Forum.asp?forum=9šion=119&post=3206&title=T3%20Blueprints
To find them yourself
Type Legion (or any other text)
select the text and right click - autolink - item type
Select Legion Blueprint
This creates a link to the blueprint
You can find plenty of nice thing doing this...
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Kabeil Blackdawn
The Shadow Order
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.02.12 19:35:00 -
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 Originally by: Rika I
Also, like the t2 chain, you don't have to do every step yourself.
I think that not being able to do everything solo is one of the point in the t3 production chain.
their is at least 9 different gas to harvest. A lot of different salvage types. Finding the right artifact.
When I looked at the steps to make a t3 ship, I was happy about it. Not too simple, but with a lot of variation. I see 4 big steps in the process:
Gathering - Reaction (pos) - Reverse Engineering (pos)- manufacturing
Just gathering all you need to make one ship from scratch without going to the market is going to be very hard. This will also depend on numbers a lot: How hard is it to find a WH? How hard to find gas cloud? How hard is combat with sleeper? How much do sleeper drop...
Gathering
This will require a large quantity of players to scan WH, go in their to fight sleeper and harvest gas cloud. A solo player that wants to get all this done alone will need a probe launcher, a gas cloud harvester and a salvager all in his High slots. This will reduce the fighting power of most ship. I would see lots of small gang, going in together for raids in WH space. Will gas cloud harvesting ops be needed to supply the market or will a few guys harvesting while fighting sleeper be enough? not sure.
Reaction (pos management)
Because of the requirement, manufacturing polymer will require at least a pos much like the current reaction for T2. Thus only industrial oriented characters and corps will get in this business. The main difference is that the material flow may not be constant without buying it from market.(who know if your always going to find xxx-c32 gas clouds). Because of that, the material flow from WH-space to market will have to be somewhat constant to the market.
Reverse Engineering
Will also require a pos to do. Will a solo player be able to make enough isk selling the bpc he gets with only doing reverse engineering at the pos. I don't know! Corps that do the reaction step might have the resident brainiac and a lab at one of their pos for that to continue the logistic chain.
manufacturing
if no pos is required, someone could buy or reverse eng the needed bpc, buy components from the corp with poses and make the frame and subsystem for t3.
I see the logistics as an hourglass, lots of people going in WH to get items and sell them on the market. A few corp with poses to do the reaction and reverse enginering. A couple of people only doing reverse eng. lots of components on the market for a larger quantity of people just manufacturing frames and subsystem. All this will require people going in WH space to get the material to the market.
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Kabeil Blackdawn
The Shadow Order
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.02.12 19:52:00 -
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Originally by: Rika I
Originally by: Akira Kurosaw
Maybe some of you just want the glory days of T2 bpo monopoly back, the days when hac's where sold for +200mill because only a select few could build them
There is a big difference between a monopoly based on skills and the old monopoly based on the lotto. In one, people can work their way into it while in the other, they could never get into it.
As far as skills, like their is specialization in pvp and combat, their should be specialization in industry. I'm all for higher skill requirement so that not everyone can make any kind of t3 ship. Racial ship engineering V would separate different races. Cruiser construction V would help differentiate when other t3 class are invented.
Maybe building subsystem could need racial ship engineering V and building frames Cruiser construction V and racial ship eng IV.
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Kabeil Blackdawn
The Shadow Order
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.02.12 22:11:00 -
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Originally by: Paranoid MindZ
Worm Holes??? Gas Clouds?? Will be a mega alliance picnic the seconds they are discovered.
What makes you say that? I think that WH-space is the best way to have mostly uncontrolable space without doing instancing for each wormhole. Its not like big alliance will send all their pilots to guard WH-space. To chaotic to move gang around. Their might be a couple of corp that completely move to one WH system and stay there, but I don't think that will be common. Most people will want to take the same WH they took to get in, so as to not get lost.
As for manufacturing, its true that their is a lot of pos usage. Do we know if its only the poses needed for the reaction of gas into polymer that will require to be in low sec? Seem to recall seeing that somewhere...
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Kabeil Blackdawn
The Shadow Order
New Eden Research
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Posted - 2009.02.13 22:16:00 -
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Originally by: Gnulpie
There is not a single hint about them. No blueprints, no reactions, no nothing.
The polymer reaction are on the market.
The component bpos are on the server as: (subsystem type(offensive, propulsion...)) component (number(1,2,3)) blueprint
write 'compoenent' in chat, select it, 'link type' and select the component bpo you want. The generic component seem to be for frame construction, but only number 3 is working.
You can already make cost estimate by speculating on the price of gas and salvage. |
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